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2.4.5 extraterrestrial contact, 1.3.3 lokas

Time travel is not possible unless one traverses the spectrum variations within the continuum. That is to say, in order to traverse time, one must compress space. Time and space and person or witnesship are three relative factors which together form a stabilized base for the perception and experience of reality. If they are in some way altered, if one is altered, if time is altered or space is altered or the witnesship mutates, then the relationship of these three changes and there is a special or temporal differentiation. So you see, I have spoken at length upon the different lokas and on the relation of time to the varying lokas. If one changes the dimension in which expression is occurring, the witnesship or Purusha mutates in aspect, and so does the time, temporal and spatial association, so that in Maharloka you will find that there is a non-dual relationship between time, space and witness. All three have come to exist, but their existence is non-linear. That is to say, the future and the past and the present become as one. If one wishes to know the future and the past, one must develop subtle intuitional insight into the realm of potentialities or Maharloka and there you will find that time and space are not so separate, nor are they linear. Their association is purely causal. Thus from this dimension you will be able to traverse time. So you see to alter time, one must alter space, to alter space, one must change the aspect of the Purusha. Thus there is an alteration in dimensional spheres. Now if you wish to traverse time within Bhurloka or Bhuvarloka, you will have to utilize a kind of science as not yet developed in this place. It requires adaptation of spatial configurations and time. There is a science for this, but it is not known in this place. I will say this much: it utilizes the rifts as the spatial traverse, but it is time rifts which must be charted and it is even more complex than spatial configuration and therefore more difficult to maneuver within the mundane universe. Alright.

Q: Could you explain what do you mean by changing the nature of the witnesship of the Purusha and secondly , when you are talking about rifts, are there places in the time-space continuum where the fabric of events is weaker and there are places where the fabric of events is more strongly knit together. Does that idea have any substance?

I will answer these questions. First of all regarding Purusha, that is the witnesship of different spheres of Cosmic expression. In the causal expression it is Virat. The causal witness takes, you see Purusha never changes, never modifies, but He appear to modify, He takes upon Himself the appearance of different modifications depending upon the characteristic binding of the gunas upon Purusha. So Purusha is always without change, but as the witnessing entity of this vast cosmological order He takes upon Himself certain alterations and depending upon the dimensional aspect or loka in which He is manifesting, He will take upon Himself different qualities and characteristics, so that when Purusha is witnessing or associating with the causal expression His aspect is more diffused, it is not sequential, He is associated with causation. So you see, witnesship associates directly with the aspect of cosmic development. So in the causal sphere, Virat is subtlely associated in a causal relationship with the manifest universe. Now, in Svarloka, He manifests as Hiranyagarbha, in this aspect He is imagining the entire universe and all that occurs therein. So the universe becomes a projection of His subjective imagination and He is the witness of this creative expression. He is the creator in this aspect. And in His imaginative flow the entire manifest universe is bringing forth. But then in the aspect of Iishvara, He becomes the witness of the mental projection, which is perceived by the unit entities as a physical world, as a physical universe and in this He is Iishvara. So He has taken upon Himself the aspect of the controller, the operator of this manifest universe. He is witnessing manifestation. He is in the association with manifestation in this aspect. So you see, the key is in the alteration of the aspect of the Purusha. When the witness changes His aspect, then that which is witnessed also shifts. In this way the dimensional stratums may be traversed. But when the witness is immersed in a particular stratum, then all of the operative principles will remain true to that stratum of existence. So that the Purusha, when it is in association with the manifestation of the created universe, not with the creation, and not with the causation, but with the actual expression, we call Iishvara and Iishvara means controlling point. He is the controller of this manifest universe and He is the witness. In this aspect He is in a particular relationship with Prakrti and He immerses Himself in manifestation.

Now if one wishes to see beyond the created universe, one will have to alter the experience of witnesship. So that there is a more subtle witness, so that witnesship of Hiryanyagarbha expressses the creative flow of Parama Purusha and Virat expresses His causal anticipation of manifestation and still more subtlely association may be with Paramatma. And when this association comes, then all that is in the world of expression, creation and causation ceases to exist. And there is only pure the unqualified Purusha. So you see, the key point is that all alterations occur not by the bending of time and space but by alteration of the aspect of witnesship. When that alters all else changes. So this is a very subtle science, though well developed by more elevated races, so that they may traverse the universe in very unconventional ways to our thinking. You know if you are here, but you alter to the realm of creation and causation and from the perspective of a multidimensional universe, ever existing in multi potentialities, you focus again, the potentialities may be altered and it is changed. So there are those who do like this, but they are few. There are those who change time and space in a more mundane fashion, who stay within the realm of manifestation. They exist in a more advanced state of development and they have developed a science, a mathematical science, which may anticipate the faults and movements of time and space, for these fold upon each other, they move together like undulating waves, some parts may move quickly, some may move over eons. To understand this ocean of existence and to be able to map these movements is a very advanced science. That bases its understanding upon a mathematical formula or science within the science there is great variation in precision. Those who are young races may make many errors before they develop fully. This capacity to map space and eventually time, for they are associated and when the spatial waves may be mapped then the time continuum will also become visible. In this way if the mapping is done, you know, the faults will be seen. So as the wave comes up and the other wave rises, they may overlap for a moment, a day or an eon. At that point one will enter this overlap, will go from one place in time to another, many light years apart. To traverse time is more complex, for not only must the spatial rifts be understood, but they must be comprehension of the associated time differentials and the capacities to map these and to move through phasing between one time and then another. It is not so simple, because there is dimensional shifting in any phasial movement. One cannot stay within the created universe while moving through phases. So the physicality must be dissolved into potentiality and again reformed in a different phase. Do you understand?

A: To some degree. Yet I don't fully understand, but my mind feels a sense of recognition of some of the things that you have said.

Yes, you understand. You do not know that you comprehend.

Q: I have also some questions about the history of human beings on this earth. ( Yes,yes I will answer). I had asked you some of these questions earlier and I like some clarification in response to you answers and new information that I read since then. Now it has become apparent to archeologists that homo-erectus skeletons are found all over Africa, Europe and Asia. Within a short period of time they're replaced by anatomically modern humans all over these same areas. And so the question is did the evolution occur from homo-erectus to modern human simultaneously in all of these places or did it occur in one place and then was a rapid migration and replacement. And I was wondering whether, I remember one time you said that have been genetic experimentation in six points on the planet and I wonder if that was involved in this period.

Even the proto humans were genetically produced, but the final type was developed some one millions years ago in what is now known south India. It was not that before as it was joined to the African continent. But this modern human was introduced through the genetic mixing of the parent race and the indigenous genetic types. You see a planet cannot be seeded simply by bringing the offspring of a race, they will not be genetically adapted to the environment. There must be a mixing of genetic materials so that the race may be adapted to their indigenous environment. Thus the human beings were given scope upon this planet. The protohumans were those lines which did not continue to develop.

So did you mean that the final type was developed a million years ago in south India and did they spread rapidly in Africa.

Yes, yes they spread.

They spread to the Mediterranean.

Through the Mediterranean region and the different parts of the globe.

So is it the case that in each stage of this development from proto-human to modern human that certain genetic changes

were injected ?

There were serious of genetic manipulations, but the final, fully adapted species was not developed until this time. So that different adaptations occurred, had to occur before there could be a sufficient neurological and biological vehicle in which to plant the seed of the modern human.

Were the cultural ideas intentionally introduced in this process as well?

You see, this race was genetically developed through the intermingling of indigenous genetic material and that genetic material which was indigenous to those races doing the experiment. It did not involve any others, but those races who were not properly equipped to live in this place, therefore there is a blending of genetic codes taking the intelligence and capacity of one race and implanting it in another to forward the development of the second race. In this way, this planet was colonized.

Q: Were these colonizing races similar to us genetically, when you talking differences, are you talking about breathability of oxygen or are you talking about, for example more minor kinds of adaptations which were nevertheless important?

You will find they are very similar. But they are not adapted to this world. Their digestive system, their reproductive systems, their overall physiology is not well adapted to this planet, but their intelligence, their mental structures and even their physical appearance are very similar. But as I have said, this race has died out. So you may not find them.

So we don't live their offspring.

Do we have other relatives on other planets?

There are many races which have similarity to this one. This is a young planet, a young race. There is much that may be known from others and soon it will be known. But it is not good for child to know too much, too soon. They may not be able to properly use the knowledge.

So does our race have the mental capacity to comprehend these teachings but not the moral and social development necessary or is it the question of mental development as well?

That is correct. Mental development is there, but the spiritual development is still lacking. You see, this race, it is like unruly children. Mental development is there, but wisdom is lacking. Spiritual development is lacking. These things will soon come. A young race will not remain young. All children grow. You have thought, this race is well adapted, fully designed genetically, but I would disagree with this conclusion. It is only a growing child.